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Sunday, February 19, 2012

Perceptions of herd population may be inaccurate

Summary: For the first time the hunters are admitting several things we've said all along. The Ohio herd numbers they use to justify hunting may be "inaccurate", they are now saying that "contraception" or sharpshooting must be used in urban environments. They call contraception "costly" without comparing it to the reoccurring expense of hunting. They admit that the state population numbers have nothing to do with urban deer populations that they don't even count. And they admit they manipulate deer populations to keep the hunters happy.

Outdoors: Too many deer? Too few? Hard to answer


By Dave Golowenski
For The Columbus Dispatch Sunday February 19, 2012 7:49 AM

As noted last week, Ohio deer hunters took about 41,600 fewer whitetails during the 2011-12 season compared with the record 261,260 tagged in 2009-10. The harvest a year ago also was down.

News of the two-year drop — about 15.9 percent — has sparked numerous exchanges on deer forums on the Web. In the strictest sense, opinions run the entire gamut of A to B, to wit: The Ohio Division of Wildlife is at fault; the weather is to blame.

An apparent majority seems to think culpability rests mostly with the division; for example, its switch from check stations to electronic reporting of tagged deer. Then there are accusations that the division is working furtively at the behest of the insurance companies and the Ohio Farm Bureau to lower deer numbers. The wildlife biologists? They don’t seem to know — or care — what’s going on, some critics say.

One hunter, apparently writing in jest given the smiley faces on his post, suggested that maybe the solution lies with pitchforks and torches: “It’s time to make a plan and go get Tonkovich.”

Wildlife biologist Mike Tonkovich is charged with trying to figure out how to manage Ohio’s deer population in the best interests of all. That’s no easy task, given that hunters generally want more deer, but farmers and many urban/suburban dwellers generally want fewer.

The citizenry, which include farmers, urban dwellers and hunters, certainly aren’t blind. However, their view is restricted to the local landscape, which might hold many deer or might hold few. The number can fluctuate from year to year.

Meanwhile, the public hears reports about a growing herd that might indicate a runaway statewide deer population. Such awareness raises concerns among the whitetail-weary and makes hunters question whether the population estimates are reliable when they don’t see as many deer as they think they should.

Here’s the upshot: Tonkovich said not only is far too much emphasis placed on the estimated size of the statewide herd, but that estimate is next to meaningless when it comes to deer management.

The statewide estimate, he said, has “no bearing whatsoever on harvest regulations last year, this year or in the future. There’s not a statewide population goal. Unless my boss gets pressure, we’re not going to talk about (statewide) population anymore.”

Tonkovich manages deer by trying to work with a snapshot no larger than a single county. Simply put, deer are unequally distributed across a varied landscape, which explains in part why an island of two central Ohio counties, Fayette and Madison, will be included next year in the most restricted harvest zone. (The restricted zone, by the way, has over the years shrunk to only four other contiguous counties along Lake Erie in northwest Ohio.)

What makes Fayette and Madison different from surrounding counties is the ease with which hunters can wipe out deer. Two-acre woodlots sprouting amid a mostly agricultural expanse offer deer meager opportunities to avoid hunters.

“Five hunters easily can eradicate all the deer in a stand of trees,” Tonkovich said.

Hunting being the “most significant source of mortality,” he said, means that cutting the season harvest limit is the only cost-effective way to keep numbers at a level that satisfies hunters and doesn’t impose too heavily on farmers. Increasing the limits would have an inverse effect over time.

People annoyed by browsing wild animals on their piece of urban landscape, whether focused on deer sharing roadways or dining in their flowerbeds, often have the impression that the state is overrun with deer. The urban population, though, has never been counted in the state herd estimates. That’s because residential whitetails represent deer that are generally out of the reach of hunters and, therefore, wildlife managers.

“The urban populations are expanding, and they are waiting for no one,” Tonkovich said. “And we can’t touch them. Using automobiles to manage them is not an option.”

Ultimately, the control of nuisance neighborhood deer, he said, likely will require a costly program of contraception, which requires injecting individual deer, or the costly and, to some, unsavory hiring of sharpshooters to knock down the numbers.

As for the overall deer population, Tonkovich described the situation as somewhat “static.” He said he isn’t certain what’s behind the harvest decline of the past two years, although some signs point to fewer deer in counties where populations have tended to run high.

There is, though, a hitch in that assumption.

The models used to determine deer numbers are based on the annual harvest. What remains an unknown, however, is hunter effort. People are either spending a little time to fill a tag or a lot of time to do so. If hunters are giving up before they get a deer because of weather, lack of tenacity or any other reason, the decline in harvest might not be an indication that the deer numbers have fallen.

The division mailed more than 20,000 surveys and emailed another 16,000 to deer hunters in an attempt to get a handle on the effort factor in the deer-harvest equation. However, Tonkovich said the lack of response makes drawing conclusions sketchy and difficult.

Taking several minutes to fill out a survey and returning it in a timely manner, Tonkovich said, can help the division determine the missing piece that indicates whether regulations need to be tightened or loosened in a county. Based on harvest numbers alone, it’s possible that population estimates can lag behind by several years before the true deer numbers become apparent.

“If a hunter wants to make a difference, that’s where a hunter can make a difference,” he said. “ The thing we don’t know is effort. What we don’t know is whether people are hunting less because there are fewer deer. Or, are they just hunting less, and so it seems like there are fewer deer.

What Tonkovich does know is that the number of purchased deer permits decreased during the most recent season by 4 percent after having fallen about 5 percent the previous year. That could be part of the reason for the drop in harvests, but the kill dropped considerably more than did permit sales.

outdoors@dispatch.com


By the numbers

Ohio deer kill totals over the past five seasons, according to the Ohio Division of Wildlife (the 2009-10 kill of 261,260 is the state record):

Year   Total  Gun  Archery  Muzzle  Other  Cosh
 2007-08  232,854  121,183  78,639  22,329  10,703  8,417
 2008-09  252,017  134,231  85,856  21,532  10,398  9,564
 2009-10  261,260  134,130  91,546  25,497  10,087  9,633
 2010-11  239,379  127,157  85,012  17,887  9,323  8,837
 2011-12  219,698  107,048  84,350  19,251  9,049  7,969

The last column is the largest hunting county, consistently Coshocton (over 100 mi south of Solon). ODNR encourages "urban hunting program" for the convenience of "sport hunting" and the license revenue it produces in this declining market.

See the full article here.

Saturday, January 28, 2012

Culling Delayed, expected Feb 1st

Solon deer culling could begin before Feb. 1


SOLON - Although the city’s reactivated deer culling program had not gotten underway yet, the manager of the program said earlier this week he expected sharpshooting could begin before Feb. 1.

“Right now, that’s depending on the weather conditions,” said David Hromco, manager of the city’s program. “The program does work a little better when there’s snow, as long as there’s not too much.”

Wind conditions are also a factor in getting the program off the ground, said Hromco, who set up the initial program using sharpshooters from a private contractor beginning in 2004 and continuing through 2009.

See full story in the Solon Sun

Feb Update:

Deer culling efforts began in Solon this week and are expected to continue into March.

The shooters are using different rifles than in past efforts, and that the gunshots are louder. It's possible that residents will hear gunshots.

He said that any residents with concerns can call the city's Public Works line at 440-337-1340.

NOTE: Typically you should call the police if you hear gunshots. You may want to do that if you hear shots from an area not listed as a kill site. We'd also be very interested if you discover a new kill site, please let us know at SolonDeer@gmail.com .

See full story in the Solon Patch

Sunday, January 22, 2012

Killing to Start Jan 23rd

This post will show news items related to the start of killing...


On Fox News
http://www.fox8.com/news/wjw-news-solon-deer-killings,0,834893.story

 



Deer Culling to Begin Soon in Solon

Sharpshooters with the U.S. Department of Agriculture are preparing sites for shooting and could begin on Jan. 23.
See the article in the Patch here.


Poll: Do You Feel Safe With Deer Culling in Solon?


Take the Patch Poll and tell us how you feel about deer culling in Solon. And then head down to the comments and tell us why you feel the way you do.


Check back for more news stories this week

Saturday, January 14, 2012

Stanek Retires, Hromco will return to manage deer culling

Public Works Commissioner Jim Stanek Retires Suddenly

Stanek, who oversaw a number of departments and was with the city for more than three decades, retired suddenly earlier this month.

Kraus said Mayor Susan Drucker will have an important decision to make in replacing Stanek, who oversaw the service, engineering and water reclaimation departments.

Stanek was also the city's leader in handling its deer culling project. Kraus said finding the right person to manage that task will be important.

See Solon Patch article here.

Solon's Public Works Director resigns; Dave Hromco returns for deer culling program

Following the abrupt retirement of Public Works Commissioner Jim Stanek, city officials plan to appoint his retired assistant, David Hromco, to oversee the deer management program that will be reactivated this year.

Hromco was instrumental in devising the city's original deer culling plan in 2004-05, when a private contractor, White Buffalo Inc. was employed until the end of 2009, when the program was abandoned.

Formal action is expected at the Tuesday (Jan. 17) City Council meeting.

See Solon Sun article here.

UPDATE:


Solon To Pay Temporary Deer Culling Manager As Much As $6,000


David Hromco, who is returning from retirement temporarily to manage Solon's deer culling this winter, will earn $40 per hour.
The contract with Hromco was approved by city council this week. It runs through March 31, and maxes out at 150 hours. So the most Hromco can earn on the job is $6,000.
Hromco will also be issued a city cell phone and have access, if needed, to a city vehicle.
See Solon Patch article here.

Mayor: David Hromco Right Man for Deer Culling Manager

In the wake of Jim Stanek's retirement, the city will bring retired employee David Hromco back to manage the deer culling program.


See Solon Patch article here.

Friday, September 30, 2011

Hunting Valley wants to increase hunting

The Solon Sun recently reported "Hunting Valley ponders reducing acreage for deer hunting".

To summarize:

  • Council wants to reduce minimum hunting areas from 10 acres to 5 acres.
  • Question asked about two largest property which don't allow hunting
  • 91 hunters are waiting to hunt on 41 properties
  • One person raised the question "what happens about wounded deer running off property"


The whole article is here.

Hudson considering hunting

ROUGH DRAFT

Noticed this tweet, if you have more details, please email SolonDeer at gmail dot com.





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Tell  to say NO to Ordinance No. 11-105 STOP   in    

From the Hudson Council Agenda Sept 21st
C. Ordinance No. 11-105 entitled “AN ORDINANCE AMENDING PART TEN, “STREETS, UTILITIES AND PUBLIC SERVICES CODE”, OF THE CITY OF HUDSON TO ADD NEW CHAPTER 1074, “DEER HUNTING”; AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY"

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Tuesday, May 24, 2011

News: May 2011

For a detailed discussion of the deer management plan click here.

Here is a sample of news stories on Solon's Deer Management in May 2011

Solon Patch
Deer Management Options Expected at Tonight's Safety Meeting - 5/11

Deer Plan Provides Lethal Options, But Decision Rests With City Council - 5/11

See Solon Times Live Tweeting here.


Solon Times
Lethal methods favored for deer control - 5/18



Solon Sun
Solon lawmakers will consider lethal, non-lethal methods to control deer population - 5/19



Cleveland.com

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Solon Patch LIVE Coverage

Here are the live tweets from the SolonPatch Twitter Feed, newest first. He used hashtag #deer for this coverage.

Follow the SolonPatch for the latest info...

Deer discussion over. Next step: Stanek will talk with USDA about cost of that agency managing deer culling and other programs. #deer

Safety committee votes to remove deer park from management plan. #deer

Russo wants to know how much USDA would charge to run program for #Solon. #deer

USDA could run the deer management program for #Solon. #deer

Kraus is against bow hunting. #deer

Kraus: "It's all about safety." #deer

Councilman Kraus believes in the streiter reflector lights and fencing as good options. #deer

We maybe can find a cheaper sharpshooting company, Stanek said. The last company, White Buffalo, was the "Cadillac" of sharpshooters #deer

Deer vs. car accidents: It's happened everywhere in #Solon, Stanek says. #deer

While sharpshooting is expensive, putting that with crossbow hunting will lower the cost per deer. #deer

Councilman Bill Russo: "Nonlethal means, in terms of controlling the herd, is not practical reality." #deer

Solon should have 206-309 deer in its herd, Stanek says. "We are very far from that." #deer

Stanek on sharpshooting: "It was effective. No on can say it wasn't effective, but unfortunately it's expensive." #deer

Stanek eliminates deer park option: "In my view, trying to apply that technology to the city of Solon would be limited, very limited." #deer

Read a copy of #Solon's deer plan here. http://patch.com/A-hvmV #deer

The plan calls for lethal and nonlethal options. Thing is, Stanek says most of the nonlethal methods are not effective #deer

The question #Solon officials have to answer: what number of deer is acceptable? #deer

In 1970, there were about 17,000 deer in OH. Now there are 750,000. #deer

Public Works Commissioner Jim Stanek: #Solon realized deer population was increasing 4 or 5 months ago. #deer

Read about #Solon's deer plan. http://patch.com/A-hvmV

I've got a copy of Solon's deer management options, which include both lethal and non-lethal options. Article coming soon.  [published here]

#Solon gets deer management options tonight. Are lethal options on the table? Will hunting foes arrive en masse? http://patch.com/A-htnt

Friday, April 29, 2011

Killing deer still necessary, Solon officials insist

By SUE REID
http://chagrinvalleytimes.com/NC/0/3029.html

Ironically Councilman Russo said he "would not tolerate inaccurate statements" by the public, yet here he is doing what he won't tolerate.  Here's the news story in black, and comments in blue.

In researching the issue of deer management and consulting with experts on the topic,

Contacting only one sided experts doesn't qualify as "research".  Well qualified non-lethal experts, expressed interest in Solon and were ignored by the Councilman, xx.

Solon Councilman William I. Russo said last week he's trying to look at the entire issue objectively.

Odd coming from a person who demonstrates a very strong bias toward lethal options.

Mr. Russo, who chairs City Council's safety and public properties committee, said, "I've done a lot of research," including reading information from the Cleveland Metroparks and that of trained experts in the field.

This "research" specifically excluded all non-lethal alternatives but one, which he shot down.

The conclusion is that "you have to have a combination of options, and, unfortunately, they have to be lethal and nonlethal, which will include culling," he said. A complete nonlethal program simply won't work, he said.

How could he possibly know that since he ignored all non-lethal alternatives but one, which he shot down?

Mr. Russo's committee is to be presented with a comprehensive deer-management program from the city administration at its next meeting, May 11.

An administration that enjoys hunting and earlier this year tried to hurry through a bow hunting pilot for all the hunting enthusiasts on the city payroll.

The committee's recommendation based on that will be forwarded to City Council for consideration.

"In order to control our deer population and do it cost effectively, we need a combination of lethal and nonlethal methods," he said.

"Counts rise when hunting ceases, and to think the deer population will level off, I just can't see that," Mr. Russo said.

Mr Russo doesn't understand basic biology and forces of nature which ensure that all life (except human life) doesn't exceed the biological carrying capacity of the environment.

"From what the department of wildlife mentioned, how the deer population has exploded over last 30, 40 years because hunting has been restricted and natural predators have disappeared, if we are only using nonlethal, that population will only continue to grow."

Until it reaches the biological carrying capacity and it will level off as its done for millenia before Russo's junk science hit the scene.

In regards to Solon residents gathering signatures to put a referendum on the November ballot prohibiting lethal forms of deer management, Mr. Russo said, "In my mind, I think that would effectively tie the city's hands in trying to address any future issues as the deer population continues to grow and thrive.

It would ensure the safety of the citizens of Solon, the task that his committee is responsible for, discharging deadly weapons in the city does not enhance our safety.

"God forbid we have an outbreak of Lyme disease," he said. "We would have no method of controlling that.

Total hysteria and very inaccurate. Lyme disease is not a problem in Ohio, nor is it likely to be.  Again a basic understanding of Lyme disease would have you know that its origin is from small animals or rodents and if deer are not available, it will still spread.

"There's a mix of people from Solon and outside of Solon who are pushing the nonlethal issue, which is fine, but when residents of Solon take a look at this, they're tired of people who don't live in the city telling us what we should be doing."

Actually we're tired of uninformed politicians telling us what to do.  Apparently Mr. Russo wants to make your decisions for you.

Mr. Russo said it is his opinion that, if the city would allow crossbow hunting on city properties in remote areas where deer are present, "I want to stress that this is not people running around Solon with bows and arrows, but using a crossbows off a platform."

Actually its is.  The last group of "sharpshooters" were found to be handling firearms in an unsafe manner, it will be no different with hunters.

He said that method would reduce the overall cost of a deer-management program, recognizing that the cost of culling alone is very expensive. Hunting with a crossbow would essentially be free for the city in that hunters will pay for permit, he said.

He likely isn't factoring in the huge overhead of police overtime, administrative processing, and lawsuits, which all occurred last time.

Mr. Russo said he also is looking for the use of Strieter-Lites as part of the program. "You can't put them throughout the city but can target them in areas where we find deer congregating," he said.

Interesting, will they be doing it effectively this time, or is this just so they can say there is a non-lethal alternative.

A comprehensive program also has to involve some education on what types of plants and shrubs to plant, Mr. Russo said. "Those are going to have to be incorporated in anything we put together."

Yet, Mr. Russo ignored a national expert in this area, once again more lip service, and no actual interest if it doesn't involve killing them.

Public Works Director James S. Stanek, who is to present the options to the safety committee, said each one will need discussed.

So as to appear to be a "comprehensive plan".  They will discuss it on camera, while off camera they ignore non-lethal experts.

"If you want to mix lethal with nonlethal, we have to make sure what we would be using could be done that way," he said.

"On the face value of what we know about deer parks, they can't be used in lethal situations, at least where you will follow up and request a nuisance permit from the division of wildlife."

And if it doesn't allow lethal alternatives it won't be considered.  The main goal is clear, killing deer, a lucrative business, the only non-lethal methods to be considered must still allow killing even if the goal of reduced DVA and landscape damage is met by the non-lethal methods.

Hunting with a crossbow will be an option in selected areas, Mr. Stanek said. "There will be limits to some of these options where it makes sense it can be used.

Nice that they made this decision before all the options were discussed in public.

"We will lay out the options and then look at some of the areas and decide on what works where and what won't work where," Mr. Stanek said. "That collectively becomes your program." Once a plan is drawn up, it does not have to "be your plan forever," he said.

What this means, and we've seen it before, we'll do some non-lethal options to satisfy the public, but after they forget about it we'll move to all lethal.  They installed Strieter Lites, but left gaps to insure that DVAs would still occur.  Then they left them without basic maintenance, while spending nearly $200K per year to maintain the killing.

The debate on the issues has to stop, Mr. Stanek said. It has resulted in a lot of "negative energy and wasted resources," he said.

The debate is about wasting resources year after year on killing.  There are effective, cheaper, non-lethal methods that they won't try by themselves, because once they proved effective, it would be hard to justify the continued killing.

"If we are going to commit to have a program, we have to do what needs to be done," Mr. Stanek said. "Hopefully, it gets beyond the back and forth."

What this administrator wants is an end of debate, no spotlight on deer killing safety issues, lack of effectiveness, high costs, they want to do the killing and say they are doing some, this is following age old hunting interests.  Solon should expect and demand more, that we take the lead and explore non-lethal alternatives.

Saturday, April 16, 2011

News: Apr 2011

Here is a sample of news stories on Solon's Deer Management in April 2011.

Our Ballot Initiative was announced with a Press Release you can see it here.


Solon Patch

Deer Hunting Foes Seeking to Ban Killing Through Ballot Measure
  04/14/2011
To get a referendum on the ballot to ban deer hunting, opponents must first collect signatures


City Council Quick Takes: Outsourcing, Deer Parks and More
04/14/2011


Deer Park Innovator to Brief Solon Officials on Potential Deer Solution
  04/12/2011



Solon Times

Deer-park proposal may or may not solve problem  04/14/2011


Solon Sun


Cleveland.com

Solon residents aim to outlaw deer hunting: Animals in the News 4/22/11

Solon residents are signing petitions for a ballot initiative to prevent the killing of deer in the Cleveland suburb.  The petition drive began after council members discussed allowing crossbow hunting, see this article.

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Tuesday, April 12, 2011

News: Mar 2011

Here is a sample of news stories on Solon's Deer Management in March 2011

Solon Patch

Example Deer Management Plan Includes Bow Hunting  03/19/11
The Village of Granville's Deer Management Prgram was passed out, see the Doc on Patch and the Village's website here.

Solon City Council Rejects Deer Count Bid  03/18/11
In a move that seemed aimed at disabling citizen comments a special meeting was scheduled off camera at 7:30 am to discuss a $30,000 deer counting expenditure.

Quick Take: Solon Moving Quickly on Deer Count  03/09/11

USDA, Ohio Wildlife Officials to Brief Safety Committee on Deer Issues  03/07/11

How Should Solon Manage the Deer Population? 03/04/11

$150,000 Budgeted for Deer Management in Solon  02/21/11

No Deer Management Now, But Solon Is Preparing  02/10/11


Solon Times

Despite 'sticker shock' aerial deer count planned   03/16/2011

Councilman William I. Russo said the aerial count "is something that's needed just to make sure the deer count has grown.  "If there is no increase in deer count, then there is no justification for doing anything," he said  

[Yet on 03/18 Russo along with the rest of council voted to proceed with the deer management plan without this count!  What a difference two days makes!]


State input on deer necessary, city told   03/11/2011   


As emotions run wild, deer rants under fire   02/16/2011


Solon Sun


Cleveland.com


WTAM 1100 Radio

Solon to hold off on deer culling
Numerous questions need to be answered
03/10/11


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News: Jan 2011

Here is a sample of news stories on Solon's Deer Management in January 2011

Solon Patch

Deer Culling Has Long, Controversial History in Solon

Crossbow Plan Scrapped, but Comprehensive Deer Program Coming

Contentious Deer Culling Proposal Heads for Solon Council Showdown

Grab Your Crossbow? Solon Considers Hunting Program to Manage Deer


Solon Times

Bowhunting plan draws fire from residents  01/20/2011

Bowhunting explored to reduce deer population  01/05/2011


Solon Sun

Solon City Council removes culling program from agenda; concerns grow about crossbow hunting 01/22/11

Citing a huge public outcry over plans to allow bow hunting of deer, plus the large number of new City Council members who are unfamiliar with the city's ...


Cleveland.com

Solon Reopens Deer Culling


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